Standblog - Mot-clé - mitchellTristan Nitot sur la technologie, l'Internet et les libertés numériques2024-02-12T17:53:05+01:00Tristan Nitoturn:md5:82ecb6a121c45d09243dc58cde2a1c14DotclearWhy "Associated data" is important, and what should Mozilla do about iturn:md5:e3685ff1973a3eacc4616c29c55e46102008-07-24T20:15:00+02:002008-07-24T19:22:25+02:00Tristanendatamitchell <p>Quoting Mitchell Baker, <a href="http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2008/07/21/thinking-about-data/" hreflang="en">thinking about data</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Our online lives are generating increasing data about us as individuals and about how groups of people are using the Internet. At the dawn of the World Wide Web 15 years ago people “surfed” to websites and viewed information. Today Internet life is more participatory and people create more information. In addition, a range of tools have been developed for tracking and generating data about people and our activities. The existence and treatment of this data is important to our online security and privacy. The treatment of this data also affects the public ability to understand how people use the Internet.</p></blockquote>
<p>So there is a lot of value in knowing people's behaviour on the Internet. So far, a lot, if not all, of this value is captured by commercial organizations. In many cases, people don't get much of the data they generate, other than getting "targeted ads"<sup>[<a href="https://standblog.org/blog/post/2008/07/24/Why-Associated-data-is-important-and-what-should-Mozilla-do-about-it#pnote-3579-1" id="rev-pnote-3579-1">1</a>]</sup></p>
<p>In a series of posts, Mitchell lays the ground for a discussion about this data, and what I see coming is groundbreaking:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2008/07/21/thinking-about-data/" hreflang="en">Thinking About Data</a> ;</li>
<li><a href="http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2008/07/21/framework-for-discussing-data/" hreflang="en">Framework for discussing “data”</a> ;</li>
<li><a href="http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/" hreflang="en">Why focus on data?</a> ;</li>
<li><a href="http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/" hreflang="en">Data Relating to People</a>. Mitchell lists several kinds of data, which she calls altogether <strong>"Associated Data"</strong>:
<ul>
<li>"Personal and potential personal data" (Credit card number, Social Security number, etc.)</li>
<li>“Intentional Content.” Data intentionally created by people to be seen by people.</li>
<li>“Harvested Data.” Information gathered or created about an individual through the logging, tracking, aggregating and correlating of his or her online activities.</li>
<li>"Relationship Data". Our relationships with other people, such as our “friends” or followers at various sites.</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>
<p>I call this "groundbreaking" because it's unchartered territory. The ownership and control of "Associated Data" is very important for all of us Internet users, and <a href="http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2008/07/22/why-focus-on-data/" hreflang="en">some of the principles of the Mozilla Manifesto are at risk</a> if we sit back and let someone else take control over our data.</p>
<blockquote><p>What can and should Mozilla do to help people be safe and in control of their online experience in the midst of this rising sea of data?</p></blockquote>
<p>We've seen in <a href="http://www.privacyrights.org/ar/Privacy-IssuesList.htm" hreflang="en">too many</a> <a href="http://www.eff.org/issues/privacy" hreflang="en">occasions</a> (and this is just the beginning) data about people abused by companies (I won't give names, because there are two many of them).</p>
<p>So the questions we should ask ourselves today are:</p>
<ul>
<li>Who's standing on the side of users on the Internet when it comes to "associated data"? (My answer is "nobody with the same levers as Mozilla, so we have to do something about it")</li>
<li>How can Mozilla unleash the value of this "associated data" and give it to the users?</li>
</ul>
<p>If you have ideas, if you feel (like me) that this topic has to be discussed, please leave your comments below or on <a href="http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/" hreflang="en">Mitchell's blog</a>. We can't leave this data issue unaddressed, unless we're ready to see it come back later to bite us...</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong></p>
<p>Mitchell has just posted another article: <a href="http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2008/07/24/data-getting-to-the-point/" hreflang="en">Data — getting to the point</a>. Short excerpts:</p>
<blockquote><p>I would like to see Mozilla provide more leadership in helping people manage the collection and treatment of data related to them — what I’ve called “Associated Data.“</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>I would also like to see Mozilla provide leadership in treating some basic aggregate, anonymized usage data as a public asset.</p></blockquote>
<p>Like Mitchell says, it's a sensitive topic, and I think that Mozilla has potentially a unique perspective on this important issue. We should not be shy... Let's not avoid having this important discussion. Jump to Mitchell's blog, read her whole article and <a href="http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2008/07/24/data-getting-to-the-point/" hreflang="en">tell us what you think</a>...</p>
<div class="footnotes"><h4>Notes</h4>
<p>[<a href="https://standblog.org/blog/post/2008/07/24/Why-Associated-data-is-important-and-what-should-Mozilla-do-about-it#rev-pnote-3579-1" id="pnote-3579-1">1</a>] Which is not so well targeted most of the times, <acronym title="In My Humble Opinion">IMHO</acronym>.</p></div>
Photos from the early Mozilla daysurn:md5:f39e1e87a5b941252b0c5e4da9eda6dd2008-04-24T09:48:00+02:002008-04-24T08:50:21+02:00Tristanenesrlinusmitchellmozillaturns10 <p><a href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2215/2421619096_6d65221536.jpg"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2215/2421619096_6d65221536.jpg" alt="mozilla.org master plan, Feb '98" /></a></p>
<p><em><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/nitot/2421619096/">mozilla.org master plan, Feb '98</a></em></p>
<p><a href="http://www.numenity.org/blog/" hreflang="en">Paul</a> recently sent me a link to <a href="http://www.jwz.org/" hreflang="en">JWZ's</a> photos taken in <a href="http://www.jwz.org/photos/1994-1999-nscp/index6.html">1998</a>, while the Mozilla project was being launched. Here are a few of them:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.jwz.org/photos/1994-1999-nscp/1303.html">The master plan</a>of the Mozilla project, during a meeting in order to prepare the launch, a few days after the Jan 22nd announcement about freeing the code.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/" hreflang="en">Eric S. Raymond</a> (ESR) visit on Feb 4th :
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.jwz.org/photos/1994-1999-nscp/1281.html">Chris Hofmann (laptop), Mike Shaver (back) & ESR</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.jwz.org/photos/1994-1999-nscp/1273.html">Jim Hammerly, Mike Shaver, Dan Veditz, ESR</a> ;</li>
<li><a href="http://www.jwz.org/photos/1994-1999-nscp/1280.html">Dan Mosedale</a> ;</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="http://www.jwz.org/photos/1994-1999-nscp/1318.html">Linus Torvalds visiting Netscape</a> (Feb 12th, 1998), with <a href="http://www.jwz.org/photos/1994-1999-nscp/1316.html">Mitchell Baker</a> ;</li>
<li><a href="http://www.jwz.org/photos/1994-1999-nscp/1466.html">Mozilla Navigator, on March 31st, 1998</a>, the day the code was published.</li>
</ul>
<p>Some people on these photos including Mike Shaver, Mitchell Baker, Dan Mosedale, Dan Veditz, Brendan Eich, are still involved full-time on Mozilla, 10 years after!</p>Mitchell Baker video interview in Paris, part 1/2urn:md5:df1797c09960246739f47ceb789d3c612008-04-13T20:30:00+02:002016-08-26T17:47:50+02:00Tristanenmitchellmitchellbakermozillamozillavideovideo <p>A couple of weeks ago, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Baker" hreflang="en">Mitchell Baker</a> was in Paris for a <a href="http://standblog.org/blog/post/2008/02/19/Mitchell-Bakers-keynote-at-the-French-Senate-Audio" hreflang="en">keynote she gave</a>. After the conference, we did a bunch of press interviews, and in-between, I abused of Mitchell's kindness and did a two-fold video interview. It's very casual, but I hope it will enable people to better what Mozilla is about, and what is Mitchell's vision and personality.</p>
<p>Here is part one of the interview. The other part will be posted shortly. Please let me know in the comments whether these videos are helpful, and what I could do to improve them.</p>
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<p>The higher resolution version of the <a href="http://people.mozilla-europe.org/nitot/videos/mozilla/EN-Mitchell-Baker-1.m4v">Mitchell Baker interview in Paris</a> is available in MPEG-4 format for download. It's under CC-BY license. For the readers who are bandwidth-challenged, a <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=jCcoWA6e2b4" hreflang="en">low-resolution version is available on YouTube.com</a>.</p>
<p><em>Edit: the <a href="http://standblog.org/blog/post/2008/11/12/Mitchell-Baker-Video-Part-2" hreflang="en">second part of Mitchell Baker's interview</a> is finally available...</em></p>Mitchell Baker in Europeurn:md5:ffa3c881b6a6150d6ddb0d61dc166a072008-02-15T20:22:00+01:002008-02-15T20:24:49+01:00Tristanenmitchellsenate <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/nitot/2267357326/"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2262/2267357326_2a29c399c1.jpg" alt="Mitchell Baker interviewed by LCI TV at the French Senate" /></a></p>
<p><em>Mitchell Baker interviewed by LCI TV at the French Senate</em></p>
<p>Jane wrote about it: <a href="http://autological.wordpress.com/2008/02/13/mitchell-baker-in-europe-this-week/" hreflang="en">Mitchell Baker was in Europe this week</a>, particularly London (UK), Munich (Germany) and then Paris (France). Mitchell has been very busy in visiting 3 countries in 4 days, doing meetings with the press (dailies, TV and radio) in all three countries and <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/nitot/2267606822/">meeting with the French community</a> in Paris (with good wine and good food, this is Paris after all!).</p>
<p>The main reason for Mitchell's visit was a 45mn keynote talk she gave at the French Senate, in a event called <a href="http://www.netxplorateur.org/index2.php" hreflang="fr">Netxplorateur Forum</a>. I have recorded the session, and I'll try to put the audio version on-line soon, as the speech was really interesting and moving (as usual, am I tempted to say), which was very well received.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/nitot/2267637278/"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2339/2267637278_56361ef07b.jpg" alt="Mitchell Baker (Mozilla) leaving the French Senate after her day there" /></a></p>
<p><em>Mitchell Baker leaving the French Senate after her day there</em></p>Citation du jour : Mitchell Bakerurn:md5:aec2d16c813d6894f81bdc754e2cdd9d2007-02-08T09:28:00+01:002014-02-18T18:59:09+01:00TristanVieux trucsdavosmitchellwef <p>Mozilla a été choisi par le World Economic Forum en tant que <em>Technology Pioneer</em>. Mitchell Baker revient juste de Davos, où elle a représenté le projet Mozilla. Elle y a été <a href="http://www.weforum.org/en/about/Technology%20Pioneers/SelectedTechPioneers/2007TechPioneers/Mozilla/index.htm" hreflang="en">interviewée</a>, et j'ai bien aimé ses réponses aux deux questions qui suivent :</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Question :</em> comment votre organisation contribue directement à améliorer le monde ?</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em>Mitchell Baker :</em> Mozilla aide à ce qu'Internet reste un bien commun. Nous travaillons sur le coté client en développant le navigateur Web Firefox. Notre optique "logiciel Libre" fait que le code source que nous développons est disponible pour tous. Parce que nous travaillons de façon transparente, en développant notre navigateur sur le web de façon ouverte, le savoir que nous générons en développant notre logiciel est librement disponible, en plus des produits eux-même. (...) Notre communauté internationale créer et distribue Firefox dans plus de 50 langues<sup>[<a href="https://standblog.org/blog/post/2007/02/08/Citation-du-jour-%3A-Mitchell-Baker#pnote-3105-1" id="rev-pnote-3105-1">1</a>]</sup>, ce qui abaisse les barrières de participation à Internet.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em>Question :</em> qu'espérez-vous gagner en étant nommé comme <em>Technology Pioneer</em> ?</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><em>Mitchell Baker :</em> Mozilla est une organisation à but non lucratif qui crée de la valeur économique, et qui l'utilise cela le bien du public. Je souhaite rencontrer d'autres organisations qui ont des modèles économiques innovants et durables au service du public, pour partager, collaborer et apprendre les uns des autres. Je suis aussi intéressée par rencontrer des gens qui ont des idées intéressantes sur comment Internet peut améliorer la vie de chacun.</p></blockquote>
<p>On pourra aussi en savoir plus sur Mitchell Baker et sur le projet Mozilla en lisant l'article de <em>Inc.com</em>, <a href="http://www.inc.com/magazine/20070201/features-firefox.html" hreflang="en">Mitchell Baker et le paradoxe Firefox</a>. Long, mais très intéressant.</p>
<div class="footnotes"><h4>Notes</h4>
<p>[<a href="https://standblog.org/blog/post/2007/02/08/Citation-du-jour-%3A-Mitchell-Baker#rev-pnote-3105-1" id="pnote-3105-1">1</a>] Note de Tristan : 39 versions de Firefox seulement pour l'instant, avec d'autres en cours de développement.</p></div>Actu Mozillaurn:md5:582844892b56332a37c19845539235ce2007-02-06T17:12:00+01:002014-02-18T18:59:09+01:00TristanVieux trucsidfmitchelloffline <ul>
<li><a href="http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/mitchell/archives/2007/02/update_from_switzerland.html" hreflang="en">Mitchell Baker à propos des 'social entrepreneurs'</a>. Je suis ravi de voir qu'elle réalise qu'elle en fait partie. Si vous ignorez ce que c'est, voici une <a href="http://www.schwabfound.org/whatis.htm" hreflang="en">définition</a>, ainsi qu'un excellent livre : <a href="http://www.amazon.com/How-Change-World-Social-Entrepreneurs/dp/0195138058/sr=8-1/qid=1170755398/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-1984539-2384126?ie=UTF8&s=books" hreflang="en">How to change the world</a> ;</li>
<li><a href="http://www.neteco.com/69256-interview-video-tristan-nitot-mozilla-europe.html" hreflang="fr">Interview vidéo de votre serviteur chez NetEco/Clubic</a> ;</li>
<li><a href="http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/02/06/0126231.shtml" hreflang="en">La Région Ile-deFrance slashdottée</a> grâce à la distribution de clés USB avec du logiciel Libre, dont Firefox et Thunderbird, c'est énorme <img src="/dotclear2/themes/default/smilies/laugh.png" alt=":-D" class="smiley" /></li>
<li><a href="http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roc/archives/2007/02/mozilla_in_auck.html" hreflang="en">Mozilla Nouvelle Zélande double de taille</a>. Bah oui, maintenant, ils sont deux, et le deuxième s'appelle justement <a href="http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz/2007/02/new-job.html" hreflang="en">Chris Double</a> ! Chris a commencé à travailler sur le fonctionnement hors-ligne du navigateur (en l'occurence sur <a href="http://www.zimbra.com/" hreflang="en">Zimbra</a>). J'imagine déjà les applications Web 2.0 de type Zimbra en mode hors-ligne. Ca va déchirer !</li>
<li><a href="http://www.lexpress.fr/info/high-tech/infojour/infos.asp?id=339834" hreflang="fr">Thunderbird 2.0 devrait se poser au printemps</a>, <a href="http://www.01net.com/article/339834.html" hreflang="fr">aussi dans 01Net</a> ;</li>
<li><a href="http://mozillazine-fr.org/archive.phtml?article=20397" hreflang="fr">Netscape 9 pour bientôt ?</a> Mais pour quoi faire ? Au moins on devrait avoir une version Mac et une version Linux, ce qui est indispensable si on veut toucher les prescripteurs...</li>
<li><a href="http://www.lemonde.fr/web/depeches/0,14-0,39-29627280@7-37,0.html" hreflang="fr">Le navigateur internet Firefox se tourne vers la Chine</a> ;</li>
<li>"<a href="http://orphne.sourceforge.net/" hreflang="en">Orphne</a> est un projet dont l'objectif est de recenser tous les sites pornographiques gratuits pour en permettre l'accès d'une façon sécurisée, plaisante, et facile à rechercher". C'est basé sur Mozilla, et même si nous pensons que la personnalisation des logiciels Libres leur permet d'occuper des niches, je ne pense pas que c'était exactement ce qu'on avait en tête au départ, chez Mozilla <img src="/dotclear2/themes/default/smilies/wink.png" alt=";-)" class="smiley" /> (Merci au lecteur qui m'a transmis ce lien et qui souhaite rester anonyme car il ne souhaite pas, je cite, " pas être taggué comme pervers"). Dans le même domaine, voici à l'attention de la <em>jeune fille</em> qui avait posé la question à mon collègue sur le stand Solutions Linux, voici l'URL de <a href="http://www.squarefree.com/pornzilla/" hreflang="en">Pornzilla</a>.</li>
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