Standblog - Mot-clé - trident - CommentairesTristan Nitot sur la technologie, l'Internet et les libertés numériques2024-03-19T18:09:38+01:00Tristan Nitoturn:md5:82ecb6a121c45d09243dc58cde2a1c14Dotclear[ping] Towards a new engine for IE8, based on MS-Word? - $M>urn:md5:d25ea12e91d060fd68b1ac81fda26bae2007-12-15T20:37:54+01:002007-12-16T14:29:19+01:00$M><p><a href="http://www.mat2057.info/2007/12/14/informations-internet-explorer-8-ie8/">Quelques informations sur Internet Explorer 8</a></p> <!-- TB -->
<p>Tristan Nitot a obtenu des informations sur Internet Explorer 8, le successeur d’Internet Explorer 7. Il semblerait que la prochaine mouture intègre un nouveau moteur de rendu. Une question se pose alors : est-ce une évolution du moteur actuel ......</p>Towards a new engine for IE8, based on MS-Word? - Colargolurn:md5:5029a7de0f7696bda8cf3b7717f355ce2007-12-11T00:20:47+01:002007-12-11T08:20:20+01:00Colargol<p>À propos de Microsoft, quand je regarde le bilan de cette année, il me semble que Microsoft a sacrement reculé. En fait, je crois qu'ils ont manqué plusieurs tournants. Et j'ai l'impression que ça a commencé avec la musique sur Internet, avec Apple et son couple iTunes/iPod : pas la possibilité pour Microsoft d'avoir le monopole sur les DRM. Et puis, Microsoft se tire lui-même des balles dans les pieds. C'est une pas trop mauvaise année pour les anti-Microsoft.</p>Towards a new engine for IE8, based on MS-Word? - Tristanurn:md5:f2b3027e2e88357c8de619c51ea5f4912007-12-09T14:23:12+01:002007-12-09T15:02:37+01:00Tristan<p>Peter Gasston & others: thanks a bunch, this is very useful information.</p>Towards a new engine for IE8, based on MS-Word? - Paturn:md5:ec3fdc62c24efd7d2c9a90e7b52496152007-12-09T01:47:21+01:002007-12-09T12:31:59+01:00Pat<p>Aaah... plus j'entends parler (dans le domaine de la technologie) de Microsoft, et plus c'est pathétique.<br />
(Par contre dans le domaine de l'économique, ils font peur, et ils sont encore là... surtout pour "offrir" la première "dose"...)</p>Towards a new engine for IE8, based on MS-Word? - funtomurn:md5:1d0ca7df935372f840591a9fba5130582007-12-08T19:01:42+01:002007-12-09T12:31:59+01:00funtom<p>My bet is that MS is going to capitalize on the Silverlight.</p>Towards a new engine for IE8, based on MS-Word? - MrBlueurn:md5:04c54cc7bb22b4c4c5e9e4a97e37adb32007-12-08T15:51:57+01:002007-12-08T18:11:41+01:00MrBlue<p>Ce moteur est-il moins polluant ? Combien de CO2 dans l'atmosphère au km ? Des retards à l'allumage sont-ils prévus ? Cette information est-elle vraiment intéressante sachant que IE est déjà mort ?</p>
<p>Je sors !</p>Towards a new engine for IE8, based on MS-Word? - Darkenurn:md5:d887a10f81a0e78bc767a892e764e4c82007-12-08T01:52:39+01:002007-12-08T12:18:26+01:00Darken<p>Hummm, alors, ce Internet Explorer 8 sera encore en retard comme d'habitude, j'espère me tromper ! Que vaut réellement le moteur de rendu d'MS Word ? Hummm...</p>Towards a new engine for IE8, based on MS-Word? - eMeRiKaurn:md5:b74e5dac5823d4b1e88af858566b332d2007-12-08T01:17:42+01:002007-12-08T12:18:26+01:00eMeRiKa<p>Je comprend pas qu'ils ne se "bougent" pas plus le "cul".. Windows Vista et IE complètement à la masse, cela favorise la concurrence, ils courent à leur perte s'ils ne changent pas de politique.</p>Towards a new engine for IE8, based on MS-Word? - David Hammondurn:md5:89d4d3a7fc15f05a998f4566bf9b936f2007-12-07T23:44:16+01:002007-12-08T12:18:26+01:00David Hammond<p>The new engine is rather old news, at least for me. It isn't a complete overhaul, but they're rewriting a lot of their CSS engine in order to overcome a lot of the big limitations in their current engine (which, as I see it, has been a bunch of hacks piled on top of hacks). I think it was Chris Wilson who originally revealed this. The new engine will be toggled by an opt-in switch in the webpage so all current webpages will use the IE 7 engine (thus not breaking). Details are really scarce so far, but hopefully the IE team sheds more light soon.</p>
<p>I haven't heard anything about it being based on Office's code, and for a number of reasons I seriously doubt it will be. The reasons that led to the change in Outlook don't apply here, and such a change in IE would cause extra obstacles for the developers.</p>Towards a new engine for IE8, based on MS-Word? - bibinouurn:md5:8144d45ffdf7afe082b59e07719a801d2007-12-07T23:17:44+01:002007-12-08T12:18:32+01:00bibinou<p>>Is IE8 going to use the MS-Word rendering engine codebase which got little support from the community<br />
Vous vous mettez au F.U.D maintenant?</p>Towards a new engine for IE8, based on MS-Word? - John Allsoppurn:md5:b754f6d72223464e164dce88a44e253e2007-12-07T23:13:14+01:002007-12-08T12:18:26+01:00John Allsopp<p>The Outlook rendering engine supports a subset of HTML4 and CSS 1 - the chances of the new engine for IE8 being this are therefore not even measurable on the quantum scale <img src="/dotclear2/themes/default/smilies/smile.png" alt=":-)" class="smiley" /></p>
<p>However, "Expression Web uses its own standards-based rendering engine, different from the browser-based FrontPage, which uses Internet Explorer's Trident engine. <a href="https://standblog.org/blog/post/2007/12/07/1" title="1" rel="ugc nofollow">1</a> Microsoft claims that Expression Web's rendering engine currently provides the most accurate standards-compliant rendering on the market, <a href="https://standblog.org/blog/post/2007/12/07/2" title="2" rel="ugc nofollow">2</a> especially CSS rendering"<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Expression_Web" title="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Expression_Web" rel="ugc nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micros...</a></p>
<p>So, it would seem that this engine is what we might expect to see in IE8. And I would guess for backward compatibility, Trident will also be there, and they'll have some kind of heuristic for guessing which engine to use on a page by page basis, as well as some kind of explicit switch, like doctype switching (though maybe not with doctype switching as is, because developers who use it already make assumptions about the IE rendering engine).</p>
<p>All of this is simply speculation based on publicly available information, nothing more.</p>
<p>john</p>Towards a new engine for IE8, based on MS-Word? - Peter Gasstonurn:md5:4ffb21a61667a0f691ba40a60db187b22007-12-07T23:04:57+01:002007-12-08T12:18:26+01:00Peter Gasston<p>Chris Wilson announced two months ago that IE8 would have a new layout engine:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.broken-links.com/2007/10/03/ienext-to-get-a-new-layout-engine/" title="http://www.broken-links.com/2007/10/03/ienext-to-get-a-new-layout-engine/" rel="ugc nofollow">http://www.broken-links.com/2007/10...</a></p>